Pigeon Extremists
I originally decided to keep mum on a story that broke in late May about a handful of roller pigeon enthusiasts in Oregon and California who were charged with killing raptors (including Cooper's hawks, goshawks, red-tailed hawks, and peregrine falcons) to protect their hobby. I figured it was a case of a couple of bad apples spoiling it for the rest of the club. You have extremists in anything and the area of birds is no exception. We recently had a debate on the Minnesota birding listservs about whether or not playing recordings of bird songs to find a species is harmful. Some felt ANY kind of disturbance to get birds to pop up is wrong--even pishing! That's a little extreme in my book.I didn't want to bring attention to the roller pigeon issue, because I figured most of the members and the national organization would want to distance themselves from a few extremists who broke the law and not be that bothered by raptors...then I read the press release put out by the National Birmingham Roller Club. Though they are distancing themselves from the members who knowingly broke the law, the release reads as though they are in support of some kind of raptor control for their clubs. The press release starts:
" The National Birmingham Roller Club's position has always been one of not condoning or promoting the harassment, capture, or killing of birds of prey for any reason. The NBRC in no way endorses or supports any activity that would cause stress, injury, or death to any bird of prey."
That looks good, however, reading further down...
" Many of our Club members have pleaded with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for intervention or assistance to relocate Cooper's Hawks, in compliance with laws protecting livestock predated by endangered species. So far, our pleas have gone unanswered. Our government regularly assists ranchers when their livestock are predated by wolves, coyotes, cougars and bears. However, when thousands of our valuable pet pigeons are killed by Cooper's Hawks whose current numbers far exceed any previous hawk population estimates, our pleas for assistance to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are met with silence."
Hmmmm, here is where I have trouble getting on board with the situation. I understand that a roller pigeon can have a value of over $100, but that is hard to equate that with livestock--these birds are pets, not a food supply for a nation. This particular breed of pigeon is not native to North America, the hawks are. This would be like having a pet starling or house sparrow and asking for protection from raptors.
So, the idea that pigeon fanciers are releasing birds out to fly in the wild, far from humans and then some get upset that predators are flying in for them baffles me. I would imagine that decades ago, raptors weren't so much of a risk with racing pigeons and roller pigeons--the hawk, falcon, and eagle populations were unnaturally low because of pesticide use. Now that those populations have recovered, the playing field has changed and you probably can't fly pigeons like you used to. The club does acknowledge this further down in the press release:
" However frustrating it may be, we understand and work with the hawk problem by not exposing our birds routinely to hawks when they are present and also by not flying at all during the seasons of the year when hawks are most prevalent, typically fall and winter in North America. This is the only method the NBRC recommends and endorses."
Falconers release their birds in the wild and that is a risk for them too. A smaller raptor can be killed by a larger one, battles can happen if you fly your bird in the territory of the same species, or another raptor could try to fight your bird to steal the prey it just captured. Of all the falconers I know and articles I've read, they take total responsibility for that. If their bird gets killed while out, they feel it was their for fault for not being aware of the habitat, for flying the bird at the wrong time of day, for not paying attention. And while the NBRC acknowledges that they are trying to not fly their pigeons when there is potential danger, the press release still reads that the overall situation is not their fault, it's the Cooper's hawk that has the unfair advantage in the current situation. I would have more sympathy if they weren't tossing prey into the air that is naturally going to stimulate a Cooper's hawk's hunting and survival instincts.
And for the record, I'm not anti pigeon, anti pigeon racing, or anti pigeon rolling. I think they sound like fun sports and I could see myself with a flock of homing pigeons some day. And I give a benefit of the doubt to a majority of pigeon fanciers--that they are not killing hawks. The press release gives me cause for concern--if we start allowing the removal of raptors for hobbies, that is a slippery slope. What about people who don't want hawks around the bird feeder?I am against removing native wildlife because a pet owner wants to let their non native prey animal loose and not get eaten. If you're going to play with fire, you have a good chance of getting burned. I don't think wildlife should be removed for a hobby and that includes pigeons, bird feeding, beekeeping, etc. You have to learn to live with wildlife and work with wildlife, we are running out of room and just can't afford removal for hobbies.
Maybe rolling pigeon and racing pigeon enthusiasts could hook up with knowledgeable birders and falconers? Maybe working with experts on the raptor species could help them come up with methods of flying pigeons with the hawks? If US Fish and Wildlife is ignoring them, they should try for other organizations or people to help them learn more about the raptors. Maybe this is an opportunity for some birder or raptor specialist out there to reach out and help? Who knows, they talk about the value of the birds, perhaps they'd be willing to pay for raptor consultations? Anyone want to give it a go? Try it out as a graduate project?













30 Comments:
AMEN and well said!!!
--Bunnygirl
P.S.
Cinnamon does not appear to approve of being used as an example of prey.
I'm totally ignorant on the subject of pigeon rolling (when I first read that it brought to mind dwarf-tossing or birds on little saktes) so I googled it, and, well, I'm still not too clear on the whole thing.
Do these birds tumble voluntarily? Or are people rolling them like a bowling ball? I even found a video but since it didn't show the start of the roll, I still don't know.
I suspect Cinnamon would disapprove of rabbit rolling.
I had a post on this topic on my blog, and got some disturbing responses in commentary from a roller pigeon enthusiast.
I'm a falconer, and I agree with the statements you made about when to release a bird into the field. I've been flying a passage female Harris's hawk, Rusty, since 1991. We try to be cognizant of the presence of gun hunters in an area or within easy flying distance for Rusty. We look for the presence of certain configurations of power poles and transformers that are particularly badly designed. And we try to keep up with whether other predators, such as golden eagles, are known to frequent a location. We can't predict untoward circumstances in every case. I describe an incident here concerning an outing where a great horned owl showed up, and appeared to have the intent of making things difficult for Rusty. Fortunately, that turned out OK.
I should note that while walking your pet rabbit on the leash should be sufficient to deter healthy wild raptors, you could still run into problems with sick or injured wild raptors. When they get hungry enough, they will take their chances on being able to get something away from a human. Also, there is the theoretical danger from falconry birds who are acclimatized to human presence. Since falconry birds are relatively uncommon and also probably not likely to be loose where you take walks, it is likely to be a very small risk.
Wesley R. Elsberry
I know I should be surprised, but I'm not. Those pigeon rollers are exhibiting the typical sense of entitlement humans have about their property and environment, just like ranchers who kill wolves, or that stupid woman who shot the cardinal because it bothered her. People like that make my blood boil. I mean, really, if these pigeons fly into power lines, do the owners go around cutting them?
I agree that native wildlife *should* have priority and protection against this sort of behavior. Unfortunately, the laws aren't very strict when it comes to harming/killing animals, as evidenced by the FWS's 14-month Oregon investigation leading to misdemeanor charges. Big whoop. And if they're found guilty, what's the penalty? Probably not severe enough to disuade them from doing it again.
And, for the record, I love pigeons and doves (I live with 2 of the latter), and other critters that generally end up as food. I'm very squeamish about it, too, and can't bear to watch the food chain in action. However, if free-flying pigeons get taken as food, the fault lies with whomever lets them out, not with the raptors who catch them.
Stupid humans.
klia
Hey, I have a body built for food, too!
I adore pigeons, but I don't believe in interfering with the food chain just because I find one of the links cuter than the other ones.
Last year one of my cats was eaten by...well, *something* that lives in the woods behind the house. This was indeed a bummer, but it is a forseeable end to allowing pets to interact with the great blue yonder.
I was sad, but I wasn't angry at whatever ate my cat. They were just doing what nature programmed them to do.
"...Cooper's Hawks whose current numbers far exceed any previous hawk population estimates..."
No kidding? I know there are far more now than, say, 1950, but ANY? I wonder what BNA says about historical population numbers.
Maureen, the birds tumble or roll during flight because of a genetic mutation.
You might be interested in a comment by a pigeon breeder on my blog.
couldn't agree more. Why is this common sense so hard for these people to grasp?
Thanks, Amy for the explanation. I hadn't seen the comments in your post--interesting...
Bunnygirl - you're right, Cinnamon does look like she disapproves of being called prey. I imagine her with a Gary Coleman-ish voice saying, "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Birdchick?!"
Wesley, love the name of your blog and thanks for calling me sensible. That's an interesting exchange with roller guy. It was good to bring up Operation Falcon, that situation was awful.
And you bring up a good point about Cinnamon is always in danger, even remote, from a desperate or injured raptor. That's part of my responsibility when we're outdoors is being the predator lookout (for raptors and unleashed dogs).
anonymous
I checked BNA and there aren't any population counts before 1900. There's the general info from Bent that says the population was on the decline in the 1900s through to the 1930s because of persecuation (they used to shoot 'em for fun at all the fall migration hawk watching sites. You know they thousands you can see fly by--that's what used to be shot in the fall).
There is no doubt in my mind that the Coops population has recovered and is doing well.
Sharon,
Mother Nature is lucky she has you as one of her advocates!
to all:
I couldn't agree more. It is nice to have comrades. I've been trying to teach this to my children and I think they've got it.
I don't want to minimize anyone's work but, I'm wondering how do we get in front of these events? Do we just react or is there a way to prevent the killing?
Maybe placing our own articles in publications read by these "goofs" (according to the dictionary--an unintelligent or incompetent person)? Even if we could stop just one...
Gayle
i am the most horrible rabbit owner out there... according to many bunny enthusiasts. i totally understand my buns are prey animals but they love being outside. the main source of protection they have from predators is their wily running ability and they also have one dog left that protects them. cats don't come in the yard because of lakota being out there. but i am well aware of the risk and judge that they enjoy the time out more than the risk. my main judges are that they were indoor rabbits and now don't like to be caught and put inside. and the health of my mini rex Clyde improved greatly when he moved outside and got to live in the nature he was designed for.
with that i understand that i run the risk of losing them to the hawks and owls in the area. but the hawks and owls belong there too.
it saddens me that some don't realize that.
i understand i "should" have my rabbits inside and "should" have them on a leash outside but even archi, now that she's outside in a garden of eden like enclosure is already showing more approval at her new surroundings.
pigeon owners need to understand the risks and take the precautions as mentioned... not try to change the ecosystem to meet their needs!
Just visited the roller site.
Article 3 Section 2:
Members will at all times conduct themselves in a gentlemanly and sportsman-like manner. Penalties for misconduct may result in a member being suspended or expelled from the club.
Perhaps a letter to the president? Then these people would feel pain.
Gayle
I use to raise homing pigeons and had a great loft behind my parent's garage when I was in the 6-8th grade. My loft held about 30 birds and I raced them once during that time. All owners of lofts loses birds during races, training flights, daily flight excercises and ect.. it happens and we live with the losses.
One time my best friend at the time rode our bikes to some lofts north of Hawk Ridge. We wanted to see thier lofts to get some ideas and maybe score on some free birds they might have avail for us. Well one of the lofts was littered with shot gun shells and feathers of many raptors all over the place. Since my main hobby was birding I was alarmed on what I saw and told Molly Evans & Kim Eckert about this and they asked where the loft is located and I think they called the authorities since the loft was not far from Hawk Ridge.
Homing Pigeons are expensive! I am thinking very serious about getting back into the sport since I loved raising & racing pigeons!! So I looked up what it cost to get a pair and the price for good pigeons can range any where from $200 - $500 for a pair! So I can only imagine what a fancy roller would cost.
Anyway these folks in Oregon just need to accept the losses and move on. I know I will once I get my loft built.
MH
I'd never heard of this "sport" (??) either, but I agree with klia's statement about people's sense of entitlement. It's just plain dumb to go out into nature and not expect nature to be natural, and that means prey and predator sometimes. I wonder if these "enthusiasts" were following their club's rules and only going out during lower-activity times for hawks?
By the way, Cinnamon looks VERY distressed from disapproving so freakin' hard at the idea of being prey!
One thing I think is being overlooked here is that is ecologically irresponsible and potentially harmful to release non-native species into an ecosystem (even if you expect them to return). I am shocked that this would be condoned by wildlife professionals.
ps - my rabbits have many shelter options including the den oliver dug before he left this world and the tunnels beyond that den...
question to anonymous... aren't pigeons like "native" to any eco system in the states - there are pigeons everywhere!!! seems like the reproduce like, well, rabbits!
carri ann
The very idea that someone would release a bird like a pigeon and then think that some wild raptor would not think it was "fair game" for a meal is IMO Goofy. Killing birds to protect pets is really not a good thing. I hope that the Feds throw the book at these people.
archi ann:
Pigeons are an introduced species, and even though they are everywhere, they still don't belong.
I don't think I need to state whose side I am on regarding this topic.
Susan, who has a bumper sticker that says, "My Peregrine Falcon is smarter than your honor student."
It's rare that I'm embarrassed to be from Oregon, but I am right now.
We have some really awesome raptors around here and I hate the thought that someone would kill them to protect a non-native species.
...I hope this doesn't post multiple times. This is my third time trying to post it because the first few didn't seem to work.
i've always considered pigeons to be flying rats, aka vermin, and was thrilled when the peregrine falcons moved in.
but i don't agree with selective breeding to enhance genetic defects either (not for "rolling" pigeons or fainting goats or anything else).
so i have a very hard time understanding how they can possibly feel they have the right to kill native raptors to protect their genetically defective vermin... but maybe i'm being overly harsh.
Just to play devil's advocate...when non-native dog species are eaten by native Florida alligators there is usually an all out hunt for the predator. Therefore, I'm not sure that this is the best argument against the raptor/pigeon people.
Amy - thanks for the helpful info. :-)
Like others here, I'm on the side of the raptors. When we had a lot of wild rabbits hanging around, it was sad to see one killed by a raptor but that's the way it goes. We did give the last observed kill a round of applause: the hawk scored a starling.
I do keep an eye out with my one dog. He's topped out at 4 pounds, and while he'd fight back fiercely at anything that tried to harm him, I'd just as soon not take the chance.
if pigeons are an introduced species where did they come from?
I have no expertise on human/dog/alligator relations, but I would think part of the motivation of hunting down a poodle-scarfing reptile is that a alligator fearless enough to snatch a dog out of your yard might eventually take a swipe at a person.
The pigeon people have no such defense. "Pigeon eating" is not a raptor precursor to "swooping down to carry off Granny."
I was a little disgusted by the Roller Pigeon organization's characterization of the situation. They spoke of "the predation problem." Hey, buddy, when raptors eat pigeons, that's not a predation PROBLEM, that's just predation! Because they're predators, get it?
Ericka, I have to wonder if any part of your comment added any ounce of knowledge or understanding about the situation at hand to anyone of us. Thanks for your originality and most of all, for coming onto a bird blog site sharing it with us.
Well, roller pigeons ARE genetically defective verming.
Okay...let's not get snarky.
archi ann: Rock doves (pigeons)are native to Europe, North Africa, and into southern Asia. They were first brought here in 1606, in Nova Scotia.
As a birder, I may be in the minority here, but I like pigeons. There is so much misinformation about them...it is said that they push out native species, but since they gravitate towards urban, man-made habitat, they really aren't impacting anyone.
Maybe HOSP and starlings, but who cares?
:)
You fly a prey animal for 'sport', you gotta accept the price.
Can't raptor enthusiasts ambush and kill this invasive species just as effectively?
Maybe I can offer some insight that might make things a bit clearer to some individuals. My background is that I race homing pigeons, and I am familiar with individuals who fly rollers.
Roller pigeons are selectively bred to enhance a genetic mutation that causes them to perform backflips in flight. I personally think that these birds are bizarre, and I have no interest in keeping birds that are not capable of surviving the rigors of the wild. That said, I don't think many people realize that this is a way of life for many people. As a result, many people think of the birds as part of the family (like many dog and cat owners). It's really not that suprising that some people resort to extreme methods to protect the things they care about.
I am not supporting the killing of raptors, I think that if a pigeon flyer is willing to do their homework and think a little, that most problems can be avoided outright. An example is that I only allow my birds to be flying or in the loft (trained to go into the loft when I whistle). As a result, I rarely lost a bird to a coopers hawk (the most notorious pigeon killer in my area). In addition, we have pine trees where grackles nest. Grackles hate hawks and alert my pigeons to any imminent danger. I know others who feed the local crows fresh pigeon eggs, and the crows keep the hawks away.
For those of you who call pigeon flyers idiots, it's very sad that you jump to conclusions without knowing the first thing about pigeons. Don't get me wrong, there are stupid pigeon flyers, just as there are stupid cat owners (who allow their cats to roam free), stupid raving idiots (directed to the individual who states why is common sense so difficult for these people to grasp), and just plain stupid people in general (people who think they are flying rats, despite the fact that I know of not a single pigeon fancier who has contracted a disease from his or her pigeons).
To play devils advocate (semi-ripoff of a previous post) I can also pose a question to many of you, how many thousdands of alligators have been killed when they get too close to people. People are a part of the food chain just like pigeons. For many people who have made comments saying it is a part of nature; one can conclude that you would support the notion that stupid children and adults have it coming if they get eaten. This can be expanded to include bears, mountain lions, wolves....
In the pass I have raised fancy pigeons including rollers. Rolling is not a genetic defect but a natural occurrence in some pigeons. These birds are breed for the best example of this trait just as dog and cat breeders breed for the best trait in their animals. As for pigeons being flying rats then there are a lot of rat eaters of the flying kind in the USA. They are served on the Menu as squab. Many hunters hunt doves each year. When I was raising pigeons i would thin my flock by giving them to dove hunters to eat. Doves are to pigeons as horses are to ponies. I do not advocate the indiscriminate killing of hawks but could not the FWS treat them as other wildlife. Wolfs were put on the endangered list then taken off after recovery of the population, now I recently read they were being re added to the list. Though I like to watch hawks, I see no reason they can't be controlled or relocated by the FWS. To be the Devil's Advocate as they say, how are Falconers fined or prosecuted if their hawk kills a protected bird? Let's be truthful the Pigeon owners do not have the Lobbyist the Livestock ranchers have.
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